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PostSubject: rough but it works   Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:49 am



Awesome site Thanks
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PostSubject: My first pics   Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:33 am











Newest design concept



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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:43 am

Looking forward to seeing how you will use the lava rock, that has some what of a subject a discussion with me and caotropheous for sometime now.

He found a fella doing that and has been very successful in using it as a catalytic converter.

He can even burn car tires and have the burn smokeless!
Also congrats on your first plunge, its fun stuff!


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PostSubject: New Build   Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:08 am

Here is my deign concept, hope it works.


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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:15 am

you dont need the top filter bypass i cant see any need for it as works as normal what you do need to consider is a chimney damper to stop the flue being pulled too hard therfore putting your system into over drive otherwise your top will melt with high heat

also top plate t2h used the pan but added another steel to the top as the system pan bowed due to high heat if you do consider 2 plates and weld the stainless steel to the steel plate and then do the same with the second steel plate

i used 5mm steel for my top plate for my vortex pipe i used 4" 2mm ss and my systems full height is 32"/33"

heres one to look at roughly same design as yours

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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:29 am

heres some extra stuff to view our gas bottles are orange 45kg 44" high the blue ones are 15-17kgs so it gives you a good idea

id have a look at round pipe in stainless steel and using the method of secondary air

http://woodstoves.forumotion.co.uk/t351-first-build-of-a-rocket-stove

http://woodstoves.forumotion.co.uk/t302-rs-vortex-testing

http://woodstoves.forumotion.co.uk/t62-secondary-air
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:50 pm

gadily wrote:
you dont need the top filter bypass i cant see any need for it as works as normal

gadily, in this case, I do not agree with you. maddmacc is using lava rocks as a catalyser and  exhaust has to pass through a layer of these rocks. To start the stove cold  without the bypass, may be problematic or open the stove to load wood, may leave your room loaded with smoke without the bypass...
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:39 am


also thanks for all the links and info guys.


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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:54 am

??????????

Where did my images go??
What is this edit, "Last edited by maddmacc on Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:53 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : dpack) "

Who or what is dpack.

I did NOT edit these posts.

Admins,
Where do I reset my password?
Also looking to get a pellet basket built, any takers
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:14 am

its easy to do an edit by mistake also ackward when it happens

i just use the sites uppload feature from hard drive makes it easier but if you do you need to copy and paste each pic seperatley onto the forum
otherwise it may have uploaded them but dosnt include them on the forum post
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:15 am

What is dpak?
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:04 am

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Awesome site Thanks
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its nothin but a reason for the edit of the post

as above you will see date posted of the page then there was an edit 10 days after the reason for edit was depac thats all that was stated
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:04 pm

maddmacc wrote:
??????????

Where did my images go??
What is this edit, "Last edited by maddmacc on Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:53 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : dpack) "

Who or what is dpack.

I did NOT edit these posts.

Admins,
Where do I reset my password?
Also looking to get a pellet basket built, any takers
Click on the word profile at the top of this page, then look for where it says password and click modify.
Sounds like someone got your password, we live in a time where there really is no more security.
My wife's personal information was compromised along with several thousand others that work for the United States Postal Service.

This happened in 2008 and they are just now telling the employees.
Anyway good catch, I am always on the alert for the jerks and their shenanigans.
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:16 am

Thanks all,
No Idea who or what "depak" is

Generally I have a very secure password, 11 digits, ( I am an IT admin after all )

Now its 16, upper case, lower case, Numbers letters and symbols.

Good luck guessing that : )

As to my new build with catalytic convertor,
It is soon to be done,
just cutting the XPM , to hold the lava rock.

Fire grate and ash pit to be done.

Brick riser and fire chamber all done and insulated etc.
Tank is all done with a " T " at the top and bottom connected by a 6" pipe, top " T " has the flap valve for cold starting
Bottom " T " has a cap, for clean out .

its bloody cold here right now, - 23 Centigrade( Celsius )
So not getting much else done.

However, here is something esle I played with,
Weed Dragon - Propane Torch,

Light it, turn up the valve to get a good flame,
Insert into burn chamber horizontally,

worked frigging great, even though I did not have the tank on yet, it helped cure the furnace cement
which seals the firebrick joints, and did give me some heat in my cold garage.

Cheers for now : )

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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:30 am

For our American friends, -23 C = -9.4 F

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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:45 am

Now that is a bit chilly, we are about to get a cold snap that will probably beat your lows.
There is a major cold front moving across the entire US next week.

We just had a severe snow storm in southern California that trapped several hundred people who had to be rescued.

We just do not get that kind of snow in southern California.

In the higher elevations they do but not like what happened a few days ago.

Looking forward to viewing your build.
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:11 pm

Can you try re-posting the photos?

I realize any website with several members are and will be vulnerable to hacker attacks.

I have had to deal with my fair share and still have them now and then.

Glad you caught it was edited, if we all keep an eye out for any shenanigans we can stay on top of it.

I just watched an interview a reporter did with a hacker who the feds got to go to work for them.

In the interview he laughed stating today there really is no security on the net.

Saying he could break anyone's door down.

So what do you do in light of that if he is indeed correct.

I like to use complicated passwords some they say are virtually impossible to break.

Where they get you is when we surf the net and click on a link that is a trojan.

You know the rest and if the governments of this world are not smart enough to stop these guys how so much more us?

Pretty much all we can do is monitor for the signs that give away the site or our systems have been hacked.

I could write three full pages on dealing with the crap.

These days we have the fly by night kids even adults hacking, but we also have our own governments doing it as well!

As well I have caught them in my system several times and yes for one my own government caught them red handed.

I even had to produce three videos telling the my story of dealing with them and what started it.

The very day I posted the videos, one here, and the others on youtube I was blocked from my accounts, youtube, and the forum.

The only two places I posted the videos I was denied access to sign in.

How did they do it?
Gave me a denial of service, they had gotten into my system and I found out how they did it.

Two different times I caught them.

After I ran those videos for about a week I decided to pull them.

They stopped their shenanigans for a bit.

Everyone asks why would they bother you?

Because I was shedding light on a company that appears to be a private organization and I know it is not.

So like I said we are dealing with the punk hackers and whether you like it or not even our own governments are doing the same crap.

Now I could write a book on this subject and shed some light on how they get in our systems.

Today if you buy a video game, a design program a cell phone, have email we may as well give them the key to our front door.

But hey that is how it is so we buy the cell phones, we buy the video games the design programs.

Then you get a text message from your cell phone provider saying you need to upgrade the operating system and like sheep we all push the button to do it.

We buy video games and get the upgrades, design programs and get upgrades to download.

In today's world big business is synonymous with big government they are one and the same.
Government in disguise as a private cooperation.

Using the software and products as the gate to monitor anyone who uses it.

No? Am I wrong?

Anyone who would say no has not done their homework.




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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:28 am

I could not have said that better myself,
I too deal with that crap every day,

will see about reposting the old pics

Cheers Trying2Hard

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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:53 am

Ya sorry about going off the rails just say the word hacker and I get rabid.
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:40 pm

Well got some work done at last, it did get to -31 C but has now warmed up a bit.
check out my play list so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woyhvvnwm0g&list=PLWzKoy5JeaGoomad_4qoML4lftHk1PCAg

No apologies for the accent : )

Maybe some one can show me how to post the videos here

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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:30 pm

Accent! Man the accent is grrrrrthate lad.lol

Man that stove project is looking pretty darn good, and to get a smokeless burn with it running open like that is great.

I have a thought and a question for you on the bricks you used.
Are they refractory bricks? I may have missed that if you covered it.

Also from what I could see looks like you cemented the bricks together, was there anything else you added for structural support?

If needed you could use something like chicken wire or some sort of wire mesh to wrap the outer area of the bricks to help keep is structure with all that expansion and contracting that will be taking place.

I may be wrong, but I think with the temps you will be getting where you joined the bricks may suffer.

Also.....Bruce Lee was one of my boyhood heros:>)
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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:44 pm

" Gadily " Thanks for that,
"Trying2Hard" :
The bricks are regular fire bricks purchased from a Masonry & Fireplace store.
Bricks cemented together using Rutland Furnace Cement good to 2000F., to seal all the joins.

The riser bricks, corner to corner are just over 8 inches, so I used an angle grinder with a masonry disk, to trim the corners off.

An 8 inch stove pipe fits over the fire brick, ( not shown yet ) and area between will be filled with Vermiculite, and sealed top and bottom.

its getting very warm here by the weekend +4 Celsius

More to come,
On a side note "Trying2Hard"
Oh yes Bruce my hero to,
When the movies eventually come to Scotland, I went to see them hundreds of time
Took up Martial arts in 1976, got first Black belt by 1978,
Even ended up in Hong Kong in 1992 , teaching the local Chinese, their own Martial arts. : )
Still love watching his old movies.


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PostSubject: Re: rough but it works   Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:52 pm

I am really interested in your stove build.
Will be very cool to see what your test results are when it is finished.

Would be good if you can show some temp readings.

Also very cool on the black belt man, as a boy I was too poor to take martial arts however all my friends several of them studied different styles.

They would all teach me the take down moves:>) and I would practice those moves day and night and when push came to shove it was like going on auto pilot, I know you know what I mean.

One of my friends was world champion in ishinryu, Harold Spivey.
You would never know it if you met him, well let me rephrase that if you were not taught to be aware you would never know.

He was one of the most mild tempered people you would ever meet.

No one ever challenged him because they would never feel he was any kind of threat.

I asked him one night at a night club, how come you never get into a fight?

I asked him because I was always getting into fights:>)

He replied a master of the art can see the fight coming from a great distance away and can avoid the confrontation without the threat ever knowing that they were made, he was able to read the situation before it could get to any form of a confrontation.

What he said always stuck with me.

Good guy.

Then there was one fella I cam to know who was a black belt, arrogant as hell.

He killed three men, one in the streets, and two during different bouts in the ring.

If I remember correctly they would not allow him to fight anymore.

He was an acquaintance and I kept it that way.

The guy was a loose cannon.
Like you I still love watching Bruce Lee's old movies, even like Jet lee when he was making movies, but he was nothing like his father.

Take care man. good to know you.
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