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MaximusHeat1369



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PostSubject: air chambers using table legs   Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:29 am

11.03.2015  14:12:48
 I would enjoy your input on this build. The premise and main goal is to use all legs are air chambers and inlet ports. Here are my concerns, ideas, questions;

Should Air port (Hot gas, cold air) be introduced into the actual heat rise tube (i.e. to assist with Vortex?)

or

Can it be placed anywhere "near" the riser tube and fire stream?

As you see, I am using all 4 legs as hollow air chambers for system. What sort of damper device should I use to regulate air flow and why?

More questions coming, but this is it for now. Thanks!!!
http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/19/35/30/72/hollow11.jpg



Video, sorry about low volume...


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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:34 am

you can use the any rear leg for the primary air feed that goes across the glass

these should give you ideas for your build

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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:59 am

outstanding! I am excited to burn stuff up!! lol
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:57 pm

MaximusHeat1369 wrote:

 As you see, I am using all 4 legs as hollow air chambers for system. What sort of damper device should I use to regulate air flow and why?

I suppose you're asking about air controls, right? Take a look at my videos and you will see how I make air controls.

In the video I referred to use rear legs to supply air to the front as primary air and front legs to  supply air to the rear/riser tube as secondary air. According to the work of several people and just like T2H referred in the video, you need to pre-heat air that enters the stove to increase efficiency. That is why I suggested "cross flow" for the air. Also, to keep the glass clean you need to insert air into the combustion chamber from the top to the bottom. That is why I suggested to circulate primary air through the upper part of the stove's frame.

Placing primary air controls on the rear legs may not be practical because you use them frequently I suggest you connect the front and real legs with square tube, so all four air controls are located at the front part of the stove.
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:47 pm



you can run the air from the rear legs but you need soem sort of controler to control the air input

you can do this by a different sort of spinner control at the front or like in the videos above
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:48 am

I love it, I have watched all your videos and will gladly watch them again. Thank you
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:50 am

Thank you
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PostSubject: Air glass clean port   Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:46 pm


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That is why I suggested "cross flow" for the air. Also, to keep the glass clean you need to insert air into the combustion chamber from the top to the bottom. That is why I suggested to circulate primary air through the upper part of the stove's frame. .[/quote]

I will redesign with changes you suggest. Will simple drilled holes work for my Glass cleaning? OR should I cut slit using angle grinder for more air?
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:25 pm

The way I make air wash/primary air dispenser for my stoves is by cutting a slot along the top structural component of the door's frame which area is equal to the area of the air entrance. For example, if I supply air with two square tubes 40 mm x 40 mm = 160 mm2 internal area per tube (160 x 2 = 320 mm2 total) and if the top of the door frame is 200 mm, I will slit a gap that is 16 mm. I also use a bit of flat stock behind the gap to direct air to the glass window. take a look at this video at min 5:55.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2FciFyNoQ
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:54 am

Thank you, I will design my project with this in mind.. Todah rabbah
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:23 pm

I do not intend to high-jack the thread, but since I am from Lisbon (Portugal) a "tank you very much" goes like this "Muito Obrigado" even though where I live today people say either תודה רבה or شكرا جزيلا !
Sometimes I love the World is becoming smaller!
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:32 am

My Friend, I am sorry for my ignorance.. I like that people correct (and teach) me these things, it is important to me to learn from any and all others. I say to you Muito Obrigado!!
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PostSubject: Re: air chambers using table legs   Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:28 am

maximus the one thing i was taught from the old is no matter what you do in life your always learning

the best thing is when we become out of the box and add our own designs to it therefore you have become the creator for other s to learn from

its the same comment where the student becomes the teacher and the teacher becomes the student everyone has other ideas to add to the box it only takes one to listen or build it for it to become viable
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