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Billhere
Posts : 27 Join date : 2014-03-08 Age : 77 Location : Renfrew Ontario Canada
| Subject: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun May 11, 2014 1:53 am | |
| Cutting circles can be a pain . I have an el cheapo 54 amp plasma machine from e-bay that thus far works really well. But like a router without template guides or bearing bits can be a challenge to use. For straight cuts I use 1/8" thick strips of plywood (laminates from a hockey stick place) . These are semi sacrificial but get the job done. The compass like circle cutter I purchased needs to be tweaked so that it bolts through the work as opposed to resting on a point, as without this it can slip, unless one has 3 hands. The perfect material would be : the correct thickness, easily shaped and non combustible ?????(fiberglass maybe ??) So faced with cutting out the rounded bottom the SS heat exchanger I pulled off a "covert op" and borrowed one of the Corelle dinner plates of correct diameter Some metalized doubled over tape held it in place, and by holding the torch upright a correct air gap was maintained(non drag tip ). Voila: Perfect hole. Oh yes, the dinner plate survived, smokey stuff washed off and it was returned to the cupboard To rejoin the 2 sections of heat exchanger sections I borrowed some drain spout crimpers from a friend (uncledon on this site); anyway the 20 guage ss material required 2 "go arounds" and some handle extensions but it fits together perfectly. Hope some of this is useful. http://www.dropshots.com/Billhere#albums/stove%202 | |
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gadily Moderator
Posts : 1477 Join date : 2013-12-08
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun May 11, 2014 4:08 am | |
| nice start there bill i like the crimpers and crimping idea as well
as it goes for plasma add ons will post some up for you that are homemade
oh im always using plates or other things for sizing more so when i measure them and they are the right size for the job | |
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Billhere
Posts : 27 Join date : 2014-03-08 Age : 77 Location : Renfrew Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun May 11, 2014 7:50 am | |
| gadily: All help is appreciated. Thanks | |
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gadily Moderator
Posts : 1477 Join date : 2013-12-08
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun May 11, 2014 10:23 am | |
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uncle don
Posts : 1 Join date : 2014-03-07 Age : 71 Location : renfrew ontario canada
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun May 11, 2014 11:04 am | |
| nice looking krimper lol
later uncle don | |
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T2H Admin
Posts : 913 Join date : 2013-10-07
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun May 11, 2014 11:44 am | |
| Pretty slick Bill with what we can come up with in a pinch! | |
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Billhere
Posts : 27 Join date : 2014-03-08 Age : 77 Location : Renfrew Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Mon May 12, 2014 1:52 am | |
| Thanks all for the encouragement . Very good links gadily. The magnetic/tripod cutter looks good as it has a standoff adjustment. on thin stainless, a piece mild steel could be used on the underside to anchor the guide.
UncleDon thanks for the loan of the crimper.
Dale: what gap should I use between the heat exchanger and top of riser tube? Suggested is 2" but apparently this might not be optimal in some situations. I am not cooking on this stove although I will add a "heat shield" on top of the exchanger.
Had a idea that may or may not be lame. Could a guy(or gal) connect a steel heat deflector with supports directly to top of the riser tube? Sort of like an steel umbrella over the tube? | |
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gadily Moderator
Posts : 1477 Join date : 2013-12-08
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Mon May 12, 2014 3:16 am | |
| yes it can be done as tested a deflector plate at top of riser you can see on my test vids
ive used 2" at top of mine thoe i can lower it if need be | |
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Billhere
Posts : 27 Join date : 2014-03-08 Age : 77 Location : Renfrew Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Mon May 12, 2014 3:42 am | |
| gadily: I guess I have to spend more time pursuing this site | |
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gadily Moderator
Posts : 1477 Join date : 2013-12-08
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Mon May 12, 2014 5:17 am | |
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jameshookway
Posts : 126 Join date : 2013-12-12 Location : Sheffield UK
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Tue May 13, 2014 7:32 pm | |
| - Billhere wrote:
- Cutting circles can be a pain . I have an el cheapo 54 amp plasma machine from e-bay that thus far works really well. But like a router without template guides or bearing bits can be a challenge to use.
For straight cuts I use 1/8" thick strips of plywood (laminates from a hockey stick place) . These are semi sacrificial but get the job done. The compass like circle cutter I purchased needs to be tweaked so that it bolts through the work as opposed to resting on a point, as without this it can slip, unless one has 3 hands. The perfect material would be : the correct thickness, easily shaped and non combustible ?????(fiberglass maybe ??)
So faced with cutting out the rounded bottom the SS heat exchanger I pulled off a "covert op" and borrowed one of the Corelle dinner plates of correct diameter
Some metalized doubled over tape held it in place, and by holding the torch upright a correct air gap was maintained(non drag tip ).
Voila: Perfect hole. Oh yes, the dinner plate survived, smokey stuff washed off and it was returned to the cupboard
To rejoin the 2 sections of heat exchanger sections I borrowed some drain spout crimpers from a friend (uncledon on this site); anyway the 20 guage ss material required 2 "go arounds" and some handle extensions but it fits together perfectly.
Hope some of this is useful. http://www.dropshots.com/Billhere#albums/stove%202 HI Billhere Which plasma cutter did you buy? James | |
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Billhere
Posts : 27 Join date : 2014-03-08 Age : 77 Location : Renfrew Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Wed May 14, 2014 5:34 am | |
| James: I bought the Accurate Tools ATPC 54 . Had to bid on it on E-bay, the whole thing was about $350.00 CDN after shipping. The torch is pretty plain and is not a drag tip. Guessing I have had it about 6 months. Has worked great for me but that said it could go "poof" at any time. So" ya takes your chances". They are shipped from the USA after being brought in from China. There is a website but it is pretty lame. (as in 1 page of text) Have cut 3/8" plate no problem. Slow and easy does it. Severed some 3/4" bolts. Best to drill a starting hole on thicker stuff. Now if money was no object I guess I would go Hypotherm | |
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jameshookway
Posts : 126 Join date : 2013-12-12 Location : Sheffield UK
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Wed May 14, 2014 8:46 am | |
| Thanks | |
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homemadetools
Posts : 1 Join date : 2015-09-03
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:21 am | |
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gadily Moderator
Posts : 1477 Join date : 2013-12-08
| Subject: Re: Heat exchanger build and a couple of techniques Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:25 am | |
| your welcome homemadetools
its nice to find a good set of info in one place | |
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